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Post by nementai on Feb 2, 2009 23:36:27 GMT 1
Hi,
I'm looking for an ancestor, Joseph Fullylove, who served as a police officer in Cardiff and Dowlais between around 1839 and 1849.
He was born in Cardiff in 1819 to Joseph and Rouspa Fullylove.
As far as I can see, he lived in Cardiff until around 1842 when he moved to Dowlais and had two sons, John and Joseph, with Catherine Griffiths. He was buried in St John's church on the 4th April 1849, I can find no death certificate for him...
I have his marriage, and his sons' birth certificates, plus one census entry from 1941 but nothing else.
Has anyone come across him, or any other policemen in the area from this time?
I came from Bristol to look for his grave recently, most upset to see the state of the churchyard, were any stones saved?
Any help gratefully received!
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Post by jemhay on Feb 10, 2009 18:18:58 GMT 1
It's possible he was buried in Wales, but the death registered elsewhere. There is a death for a Joseph Fullylove in Jun quarter of 1848 in the district of Atherstone , Leicester, Warwickshire Volume: 16 Page: 163 The only way to find out if it is your Joseph is to order the certificate.  |
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Post by jemhay on Feb 10, 2009 19:53:26 GMT 1
Alternately - it is very possible that his given name either wasn't Joseph, or that he went by another name for a portion of his life - especially as his Father had the same name. (I have experienced this in my own family tree on more than one occasion). Also, the information given at death may be incorrect. The only accuracies on a death certificate are date of death, cause of death and the doctor's name. The rest of the information is based on the knowledge the informant posesses regarding the deceased; which may be quite limited or based on what (maybe little) information the deceased had passed on during life. There is a death registered in the Jun quarter of 1849 in Cardiff district for a William Fullylove (26/306) Age unknown so again, the only way to find out is to see it. I have a had a good look around the England and Wales Census for further evidence of him/his wife but it seems Catherine disappeared after their marriage also. There are two Children matching theirs (Joseph and John FULLYLOVE aged 8 & 6) on the 1851 Welsh Census as "Lodgers" with a Catherine and William GRIFFITHS in Merthyr/Dowlais and their infant son William. But I can find no evidence of their mother elsewhere. It's strange however, that their 'landlady' has the same name as their mother - Catherine Griffiths, yet she is apparently married to William Griffiths?! Interestingly, there is a marriage between a William GRIFFITHS and a Catherine FULLER (Possibly her - FULLILOVE?) in Mar of 1850 in Merthyr Tydfil, and it's not unheard of for step-children to be described as Lodgers to the head of household on a Census. I was attracted to the name as I have "FULLILOVE'S" in my tree, and it's not a very common name. However, so far mine all hail from London, England. Will let you know if I come up with anything further.... |
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Post by minstrel on Feb 10, 2009 20:24:30 GMT 1
There appears to be no St John's Church in Atherstone today. If you put St Johns Atherstone into Google, it comes up with a couple near eg Tamworth.
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Post by minstrel on Feb 10, 2009 20:27:15 GMT 1
I should not have been so swift to send my previous reply. I wonder if his name was abreviated. I've been looking for a relation who emigrated to Australia named Herbert. When I finally traced him he was Herbt.
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Post by tenpasteight on Sept 3, 2014 8:17:51 GMT 1
Hi. I have a lot on these welsh fullyloves/fulliloves. I dont believe Joseph was born in cardiff in 1819. As far as I have determined all welsh fulliloves migrated from the midlands, both from leicestershire c1828 and ramsey, hunts c1845. To confuse matters both original migrating families were head by a Joseph. I have that all documented (plus lines back to 1487). email my at roger.fullilove@blueyonder.co.uk if you want to know more. I also have a lot on the London Fulliloves. A few of those were my own (same line a the welsh one) but most we migrants from yorkshire (cutlers by trade)
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Post by mikemerthyr on Sept 4, 2014 10:30:15 GMT 1
Hello There are two children with the surname Fullilove registered in Merthyr Tydfil between 1847-1849 with the mothers maiden name of Griffiths.
Louisa Fullilove registered in Merthyr Upper book U18 date from 4 July 1848 to 14 Jan 1849.
William Fullilove registered in Mertyhyr Upper book U16 date from 18 may 1847 to 30 Nov 1847.
There should be Police records for Joesph Fullilove in the Glamorgan archives in Cardiff.They could give you a lot of infomation?.
Mike
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