Great Uncle killed in colliery accident but date unknown

[cinders59]

I have just found out that my Great Uncle was killed in a mining accident, he lived in Merthyr Tydfil after coming here from Ireland around 1915 maybe a little later.

he was born in 1892, I have searched BMD and cannot find a death fro him with the right age to his birth, I do not know what mine he worked in or his exact residence.

I have tried the Welsh coalmines site but he is not listed, but it looks like it is not complete.

Is there any other list that I could search.

Thanks Julie

[mikemerthyr]

Hello cinders59 I am collecting obits out of the local newspaper if you give his name and when he died I will have a look to see if there is a write up in the paper there maybe there may not most likely there is through.
Regards
mike

[cinders59]

thanks will get back to you asap

[cinders59]

I have been trying to get hold of my aunt to try and get a rough date but no luck yet,
these are the death dates on BMG but none match the ages with his date of birth, he was born 1892

Deaths Jun 1938 (>99%)
MURPHY Peter 49 E.Glamorgan 11a 866 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Dec 1945 (>99%)
Murphy Peter 48 Cardiff 11a 260 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Sep 1956 (>99%)
Murphy Peter 55 Bridgend 8b 11 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Sep 1958 (>99%)
MURPHY Peter 63 Newport 8c 158 Scan available - click to view
Deaths Mar 1960 (>99%)
MURPHY Peter D 61 Pontypridd 8b 572

[cinders59]

Hi mike
I have spoken to my aunt and she says that Peter died of a heart attack underground,
She says she was old enough to know what was going on regards to the house he owned being left to the "housekeeper" and all the money,
so going by her timings he would have died when sh was aged 10 to 15 so between 1945 and 1950

Thanks for your help, but the mining records would not show this,
just need to try and find the death cert or newspaper records

[mikemerthyr]

Hello Julie
I am sure you have checked did he have only one 1st name or did he have two? and was called only PETER as he preferred that,if so when he died he might have been recorded with his full name PETER MURPHY and that's how ages are wrong.I will have a look in the newspaper anyway in the earlier newspapers up to WW2 the areas covered were much larger than later editions,but then due to the war and paper shortages then afterwards other papers reporting their own district news,if he died outside of the MERTHYR TYDFIL district he might not be reported in the local newspaper.
Mike

[cinders59]

Thanks Mike
I am not sure if he had another name, the birth record from Ireland doesn't give him another name.
I have an address where he lived
8 Bridge St
but I have googled it an there are a couple, one in Aberfan and one Troidyrhyw I do not know which one he lived in

[mikemerthyr]

cinders59 I had a look in the Electoral registers there were three BRIDGE STREETS in Borough of Merthyr one was also in the CAEDRAW area.I looked between 1935 to 1955 there were no registers during the war years. The first one after war was 1946 1947 1948 1949 then they jump to 1954 and 1955. He is not in any of these at that address,I also had a look in 1929-1930 1931-1932 but not there either.Looked through 1945 newspaper could not see death reported. I don't want sorry to be negative but are you and your aunt positive he lived in Merthyr Tydfil.I will have a look at the registers from 1955 to 1960,but I think there are a few missing years.
Mike

[mikemerthyr]

Julie
You said you looked at Welsh coal mines site was it SOUTH WALES MINERS LIBRARY in I think SWANSEA university if not give them a go! they might be able to help.

SOUTH WALES MINERS LIBRARY
HENDREFOELAN CAMPUS
GOWER ROAD
SWANSEA
SA2 7NB

TEL [phone] / 518693 EMAIL [e-mail]

[cinders59]

Thanks Mike

I live in Swansea I will go search

Julie

yes she is certain, she has always said he moved to Merthyr, the other 3 brothers moved to Swansea

[cinders59]

Plus she remembers the number an name of the Road
Maybe the only other thing to do is start requesting death certs, I cannot remember now. do you know if they would have place of birth on there, that would help a lot

[mikemerthyr]

Have not been able to look in registers yet will look next few days. I think the place of birth is given on death certs in more recent years but not sure from when.

mike

[mikemerthyr]

I had a look in electoral registers from 1955 to 1960 sorry he was not living at any of the Bridge Streets in Merthyr Tydfil during that period also.

[cinders59]

Thanks for looking anyway Mike

[mikemerthyr]

just a long shot there was a John Murphy living at 8 Riverside which was very close to the old iron bridge in Merthyr could that be your man and your aunt has mistaken the address as bridge street?

mike