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Post by evantimo on Sept 27, 2013 17:43:38 GMT 1
I recently learned that my great great grandmother was born in Dowlais and immigrated to Pennsylvania in 1863 when she was a baby. Her parents were Charles and Esther Francis. I'm interested in anything about this family!
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Post by evantimo on Sept 27, 2013 17:44:12 GMT 1
I recently learned that my great great grandmother was born in Dowlais and immigrated to Pennsylvania in 1863 when she was a baby. Her parents were Charles and Esther Francis. I'm interested in anything about this family! |
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Post by robertjones on Oct 24, 2013 19:58:42 GMT 1
You need to give the name of your grandmother
There is a long list of children with surname Francis born in Merthyr Tydfil,
Dowlais is just listed as Upper Merthyr Tydfil but mother’s maiden name / surname given
and not her Christian name
Could not find Charles or Esther on 1861 census or 1851 census
Could not fine them on the marriage index either
Cannot see that they married in Merthyr Tydfil
Rob
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Post by evantimo on Oct 26, 2013 1:53:14 GMT 1
Elizabeth Francis (my great grandmother) was born November 10, 1862. Her parents were Charles Francis (born 1837) and Esther Watkins (born March 10, 1835). Esther's father was James Watkins (born 1809) and her mother's name was Anne. You need to give the name of your grandmother There is a long list of children with surname Francis born in Merthyr Tydfil, Dowlais is just listed as Upper Merthyr Tydfil but mother’s maiden name / surname given and not her Christian name Could not find Charles or Esther on 1861 census or 1851 census Could not fine them on the marriage index either Cannot see that they married in Merthyr Tydfil Rob |
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Post by mikemerthyr on Dec 3, 2013 13:17:34 GMT 1
Hello evantimo There is a marriage record for a CHARLES FRANCIS to ESTHER WATKINS registered at MERTHYR TYDFIL MARCH QTR 1857.I don't want to sound negative and put you off trying to find them but you have to remember that the registration district covered a large area not only MERTHYR and its valley but also the ABERDARE VALLEY and parts of the RHYMNEY VALLEY ,they may have been living and married anywhere in the district, CEFN COED and VAYNOR are 1 to 2 miles away from MERTHYR they were in BRECONSHIRE but as it was closer and easier to go to MERTHYR most/many if not all BIRTHS, DEATHS, MARRIAGES could have been registered at MERTHYR. You say your great grandmother was born in DOWLAIS there is a ELIZABETH ANN FRANCIES registered MERTHYR DECEMBER QTR 1862, her mother might have gone to have her baby with a relative mother/sister maybe .You will have to send for the certificates to see where the address's are given. I hope this helps you a little and you find them!
MIKE
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Post by robertjones on Feb 24, 2014 10:42:28 GMT 1
Charles Francis married Esther Watkins 2nd Feb 1857, Registrar Wedding .....
nearly 50% are because many people belonged to Chapels that did not have a license.
Birth of Catherine Francis, mother a Watkins, registered in the book which covers the dates 7th Sept to 14th Feb,
Upper Merthyr Tydfil ( Dowlais )
In 1851 Glebeland District, High Street Charles Francis is an assistant draper in a shop, unmarried and born in
Llangynidr, Breconshire. He does not seem to be on another census.
Charles was not a very common Chrisrtian name here.
Rob
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Post by evantimo on Apr 9, 2014 17:27:19 GMT 1
Hello evantimo There is a marriage record for a CHARLES FRANCIS to ESTHER WATKINS registered at MERTHYR TYDFIL MARCH QTR 1857.I don't want to sound negative and put you off trying to find them but you have to remember that the registration district covered a large area not only MERTHYR and its valley but also the ABERDARE VALLEY and parts of the RHYMNEY VALLEY ,they may have been living and married anywhere in the district, CEFN COED and VAYNOR are 1 to 2 miles away from MERTHYR they were in BRECONSHIRE but as it was closer and easier to go to MERTHYR most/many if not all BIRTHS, DEATHS, MARRIAGES could have been registered at MERTHYR. You say your great grandmother was born in DOWLAIS there is a ELIZABETH ANN FRANCIES registered MERTHYR DECEMBER QTR 1862, her mother might have gone to have her baby with a relative mother/sister maybe .You will have to send for the certificates to see where the address's are given. I hope this helps you a little and you find them! MIKE Thank you! |
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Post by evantimo on Apr 9, 2014 17:28:39 GMT 1
Charles Francis married Esther Watkins 2nd Feb 1857, Registrar Wedding ..... nearly 50% are because many people belonged to Chapels that did not have a license. Birth of Catherine Francis, mother a Watkins, registered in the book which covers the dates 7th Sept to 14th Feb, Upper Merthyr Tydfil ( Dowlais ) In 1851 Glebeland District, High Street Charles Francis is an assistant draper in a shop, unmarried and born in Llangynidr, Breconshire. He does not seem to be on another census. Charles was not a very common Chrisrtian name here. Rob Thanks! This is a big help! |
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