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Post by gwalion on Nov 6, 2007 15:41:17 GMT 1
This has probably been touted before and if so forgive me, also I put it here, as opposed to a direct contact withe the site administrators in order to gain a sense of interest.
Anyway..
I noticed on a visit home a couple of years back, that the view over the Vaynor churches had altered so much that the old church is now entirely hidden!... the pics we have here show it clearly of course and I wondered..
If perhaps there may be room for a 'now and then' page.. clearly the 'now' pics would need filtering because of numbers I imagine, but thought site admin may like to consider?
Anyway people.. what say you?
Does it sound like an idea that could work.. is it worth it?
I do realise that it is a little from the 'old' Merthyr theme...comparison is a strong medium when it comes to understanding...??
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Post by markdvdman on Nov 21, 2007 21:33:24 GMT 1
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There are some references to old and new on the site especially on old railway locations.
It is a reference works of old Merthyr. It would take the site time to filter in new stuff, and I think it would go against the memories, and emotions that this site wonderfully evokes.
Modern is best left elsewhere as although modern Merthyr is in many ways better, society has caused it to fall behind with the yob culture and bereft of a decent public transport system that once was. A shame really.
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Post by bet on Nov 21, 2007 22:19:41 GMT 1
Surely the name of the site says it all. OLD Merthyr Tydfil 
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Post by markdvdman on Nov 21, 2007 23:43:54 GMT 1
Well the site is also associated with www.alangeorge.co.uk !!!! So give the guy credit as it is also assocaiated with www.oldmerthyrtydfil.com. If he had come through alangeorge he would not know that! I, of course have worked it out anyway! |
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Post by gwalion on Nov 22, 2007 2:32:47 GMT 1
Of course such an attitude does nothing to further the debate. I have touted an idea, not I believe completely without some merit, It is an idea for discussion and no more; if you have a constructive criticism to add about the topic, please feel free to do so, else please desist from the purely sarcastic as it adds nothing and gives no one cause for thought. Well the site is also associated with www.alangeorge.co.uk !!!! So give the guy credit as it is also assocaiated with www.oldmerthyr.com. If he had come through alangeorge he would not know that! I, of course have worked it out anyway! |
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Post by gwalion on Nov 22, 2007 2:53:54 GMT 1
Thanks for that... I hadn't come across those. I take your point about it being a reference for old Merthyr, just thought it may make an interesting page and, as it would likely only be a page (or a page in each section) would not detract from the theme but rather offer a form of jusxtaposition from which a greater understanding of the town and how it has develpoed could be drawn I have shown many friends here this site ( it gives me huge pleasure to do so being in NZ) and many ask to see pics I took on a trip home to compare, where possible, with those of bygone days. Anyway. as I have stated, it is only an idea for people to consider. Merthyr always has been a 'hard' town' but I am saddened to hear you think it is worsening. It is a very unique place with a rich history, something sites like this help promote, but I always fancied it didn't give itself enough credit and that little has been done to promote and show that rich background...perhaps that too has changed since my leaving?. Hi There are some references to old and new on the site especially on old railway locations. It is a reference works of old Merthyr. It would take the site time to filter in new stuff, and I think it would go against the memories, and emotions that this site wonderfully evokes. Modern is best left elsewhere as although modern Merthyr is in many ways better, society has caused it to fall behind with the yob culture and bereft of a decent public transport system that once was. A shame really. |
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Post by bet on Nov 22, 2007 11:34:55 GMT 1
I apologise if you felt my comment was sarcastic. My aim was to express my thoughts on the matter in as few words as possible.
I did'nt feel the need to write a page of text when one sentence summed up how I felt. Again I apologise if you thought my posting was curt.
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Post by minstrel on Nov 22, 2007 12:20:09 GMT 1
In my business, if somone comes up with an idea, we give him or her the project. What about Gwalion setting up a New Merthyr site & linking it to Old Merthyr? People could offer their photos to Gwalion to be considered for inclusion on the site. At what date does New Merthyr start? Could be a bit of contention here.
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Post by gwalion on Nov 22, 2007 16:33:19 GMT 1
This is not business. This is contemplation. If you run a business that is not capable of looking ahead i suggest that you are liable to become stuck; The contemplation of ideas is what allows all, this site, your business, our lives to move forward. We can of course, if that is your way, choose to be stuck in the past, or, we can alternatively. chose, to at least consider new ideas. A Mrthyr stuck in the past or a Merthyr that can build on the past? Oh .. hold on... thats an idea that somehow defuncts and belittles the past... This town has survived 1500yrs of abuse I am sure it can stand my simple question. In my business, if somone comes up with an idea, we give him or her the project. What about Gwalion setting up a New Merthyr site & linking it to Old Merthyr? People could offer their photos to Gwalion to be considered for inclusion on the site. At what date does New Merthyr start? Could be a bit of contention here. |
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Post by Lloyd on Nov 22, 2007 16:39:13 GMT 1
Hello Everyone,
The idea of an 'Old versus New' page layout has been touted for as long as I can remember.
We have lately started to dot a few newer photographs around the website - we added a few modern photographs to their own page only a few weeks ago.
Its also important to note that while the website displays thousands of photographs, our archives have literally tens of thousands - so in the 'grand scheme' of everything we are no where near displaying all of the 'old' photographs.
We do try and strike a balance with 'Old versus New' on certain areas of the website. However as we have thousands of older photographs to add, we really do need to add these to keep the site 'The Photographic History of Merthyr Tydfil'.
We really appreciate your comments on the website - without these we couldn't develop and move forward. I'm sure at some point in the future 'Old versus New' may become a feature.
Kind Regards,
Lloyd
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Post by gwalion on Nov 22, 2007 16:53:11 GMT 1
Your posting was curt and apology accepted. This is a written forum therefore I am at a loss it is my turn to apologise if words are not an acceptable medium of communication in this written forum. when did the men ( and women) of Merthyr become so sensitive? Are they all beyond the simple consideration of an idea now? In my business, if somone comes up with an idea, we give him or her the project. What about Gwalion setting up a New Merthyr site & linking it to Old Merthyr? People could offer their photos to Gwalion to be considered for inclusion on the site. At what date does New Merthyr start? Could be a bit of contention here. |
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Post by minstrel on Nov 22, 2007 18:19:47 GMT 1
Please read my message again. It was intended to be supportive of Gwalion's idea. I was just suggesting that the person, in this case Gwalion, who comes up with the idea is usually best suited to run a project. A New Merthyr might well be a 'goer'. Perhaps Gwalion should take his own advice & not be so sensitive. This debate would appear to be becoming unhealthy .
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Post by bet on Nov 22, 2007 19:34:22 GMT 1
I totally agree and I will not be commenting on this posting again.
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Bet
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Post by markdvdman on Nov 22, 2007 20:27:42 GMT 1
I think feelings are running slightly out of hand here!
Merthyr is in transition at the moment, but we have a generic shopping site here now just like many towns and cities across the UK (not necessarily for the worse).
However, Merthyr does have a unique identity that transcends mediocrity. In the main, there are wonderful people here - and they are always happy to help. Merthyr Tydfil library is not what it once was - a bit of a shame for the traditionalist - the price of the internet maybe?
Maybe a modern Merthyr website could be set up with people collaborating. It could be a site purely for pleasure. Time is something I do not have a lot of but after christmas, when things calm down, I may have a look in to setting one up! Maybe we can all work together on it - it could be a lot of fun!
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Post by gwalion on Nov 23, 2007 3:12:50 GMT 1
My apologies to all.
Perhaps living in the colonies has made me oversensitive!
It has not been my intention to upset and forgive me if I have.
The idea is merely that.. it hardly even qualifies as a suggestion.. more just musing based on the reaction of friends.
There will be a time when every image will be of 'Old Merthyr'.. 'old' is a comparative term.. that is the nature of all things... is comaparison so bad?, does it detract so much from the intentions of the site?
Anyway... something to think about .. and again please accept my apologies if I have offended..
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