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Post by Lloyd on Oct 2, 2005 20:41:07 GMT 1
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Post by gaie on Oct 10, 2005 19:45:28 GMT 1
Many of my ancestors were publicans at Merthyr Tydfil...The Black Lion Inn on Picton St., the Heathcock Inn on Penry St., and the Rainbow Inn on Castle St. Does anyone know how I would go about finding more information about these Pubs/Inns and their operators? Did my ancestors own the property and the business', or were they leased? Are any of these buildings still standing? I really don't know much about how the Inns were run during the 19th Century. Thank-you for your time.
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Post by gaie on Oct 10, 2005 19:50:54 GMT 1
Sorry, not Heaththingy, it is Heathcoak (change the "a" to a "c") This site changed the last syllable because it believes it to be profane language.
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Post by Lloyd on Oct 10, 2005 20:30:31 GMT 1
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Post by Alan on Oct 13, 2005 8:35:44 GMT 1
None of these buildings are still standing, there is a photograph of the Rainbow Inn on the Castle Street Page. We have a photograph of the Heathcock in Penry Street, which we will get on the Website ASAP.
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Post by penywern warrior on Oct 14, 2005 23:26:36 GMT 1
Many of my ancestors were publicans at Merthyr Tydfil...The Black Lion Inn on Picton St., the Heathcock Inn on Penry St., and the Rainbow Inn on Castle St. Does anyone know how I would go about finding more information about these Pubs/Inns and their operators? Did my ancestors own the property and the business', or were they leased? Are any of these buildings still standing? I really don't know much about how the Inns were run during the 19th Century. Thank-you for your time.
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Post by happyminor on Oct 14, 2005 23:49:14 GMT 1
serial publicans or is it promiscuous pub keepers (ha! ha!) not the sort of pubs Alan Geoff or myself would have visited though, wild people, guns, knives, murder, concrete socks in the river Taff, if they were lucky!
Doubt if they actually owned the properties as Caedraw, etc. was owned by the 'Landlords', Cae Draw was once a property belonging to Tir Morlangu Ferthyr and later on the Maerdy Estate. It is shown to be the site of many houses on John Woods’ 1836 Street plan of Merthyr Tudful. The area included Picton and Waterloo Street. Local historians suggest the dating of the housing at Cae Draw to the General Sir Thomas Picton (1758-1815) and commanded under the Duke of Wellington (Arthur Wellesley) in the ‘peninsular wars’. Sir Thomas Picton fell at Waterloo in 1815. Old boys network, same as today!
Probably best source of information on the pubs would be quarter session records held at Glamorgan Records Office. Also land registry and Quarter session reports were published in Merthyr Express from 1864 onwards.
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Post by gaie on Oct 15, 2005 1:11:03 GMT 1
Thanks for the Pub information...sounds like a pretty nasty part of town. My grandfather, born in 1883, left Merthyr Tydfil at the turn of the century, and I can see why now. He ended up in Canada and joined the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. If they didn't own the land what about the Pub business? Was it owned by the landlords, too, or the breweries?
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Post by tomi on Oct 17, 2005 23:28:13 GMT 1
I live in New York and am interested in "talking" to anyone who is familiar with history or genealogy of Twny-Yr-Odyn and Coed Cae Court. I would like to find out more of the Lewis family who lived there between 1842 and perhaps 1865. The head of house died sometime around 1850, just before the 1851 Census. The mother, Mary, was left a pauper with 5 children. The oldest child, Henry, was 10 and worked in a coal mine around 1851. I am trying to track my great grandfather, Henry Lewis, who eventually settled in Pennsylvania.
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Post by Thomas Edmunds on Dec 12, 2005 2:57:47 GMT 1
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Post by Thomas on Jan 4, 2006 5:27:53 GMT 1
The person who wrote last "Thomas Edmunds", Are you a decendant of Nathan Thomas and Rachel Edmunds (1830's, from Caepantywyll (sp?)? I am, and your name grabbed my attention. My great great great grandfather, Nathan was the Publican for Puddlers Arms on Waterloo. We created this forum to help you in your search for your family history
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Post by gaie on Jan 12, 2006 1:22:56 GMT 1
None of these buildings are still standing, there is a photograph of the Rainbow Inn on the Castle Street Page. We have a photograph of the Heathcock in Penry Street, which we will get on the Website ASAP. Hi Alan...did I miss the posting of the photograph of the Heathcock Inn? I can't seem to find it! Thanks so much for such a great web site.
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Post by tarka on Jan 13, 2006 12:55:21 GMT 1
Going through the site recently I was amazed at the photograph of the 'Cuba Inn' in Dowlais. Having never heard of it I was wondering whether anyone can tell me anything about it?
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Post by achamfe on Jan 20, 2006 17:31:59 GMT 1
I am searching my family, i need to find the next person, could you help me?
Mary JENKINS, b 1833 (only 1841 census) Richard JENKINS, b. ca. 1837; (only 1841 y 1851 Census) John JENKINS,b. ca. 1839;( 1841,1851 and 1861 Census) Rachel JENKINS, b. ca. 1844. (1841,1851 and 1861)
In 1841, family living at Rhydlafar Mill (Cardiff 17 St fagans piece 1417/07 folio 005 schedule 020), St fagans; in 1851, family living at Near Colliers Arms Pentyrch Parish gwaelod-y-garth ref H.O. 107/2456 E.D. 5B piece 2456 folio 237 schedule100 ; in 1861, at 5 Jones Street, Troedyrhiw upper District, Glamorgan. Ref.R.G. 9/4055, E.D 24 piece 4055 folio 017 Schedule 153 Please help me. Thank you
Federico achamfe@yahoo.com.ar
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Post by tfitzp on Jan 24, 2006 17:10:53 GMT 1
have read the nice tales about St. Illtyds RC School in the schools section but my main interest is in times rather beyond personal memories my aunt Mary Ann Collins was teaching in merthyr in 1910 and lived at 11 tudor st, then 10 brunswick st she would probably have been on the staff of an RC school so either St. Illtyds or St. Marys would be possible but st marys would be an easier walk i guess
i wonder if anyone could direct me toward any school records that may exist
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