Morgan Roots

[anjimorgan]

Hello,

I would genuinely appreciate any information anyone has regarding my family (the men were mainly Colliery workers/Under Managers, Brewers and Innkeepers).


Head: GEORGE MORGAN
b. 1836 • Talywain, Abersychan, Monmouthshire, Wales

d. 7 JAN 1887 • Brewery House, Tamworth, Staffordshire, England
Wife: MARY ANN nee BIRT
b. NOVEMBER 1836 • Park End, Gloucestershire

d. 13 SEPT 1911 • Homer Hill House, Cradley, Staffordshire

Children:
Charlotte Morgan - b. 1857 .• Moseley Green, Gloucestershire

d. 29 SEPT 1933 • The Hollies, Colley Gate, Cradley, Worcestershire

Edmund Morgan - b. APRIL 1858 • Moseley Green, Gloucestershire

d. 11 DEC 1923 • Tamworth, Staffordshire

James Birt Morgan - b. 6 MAY 1860 • Moseley Green, Gloucestershire

d. 21 MARCH 1920 • Castle Hotel, Market Place, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, England

Samuel Morgan - b. 26 OCTOBER 1861 • Moseley Green, Gloucestershire
- death?

Albert Herbert Clinton Morgan - b. 11 JULY 1863 • Wilnecote, Warwickshire

d. 1 AUGUST 1879 • Warwickshire

Mary Ann Morgan - b. 20 MARCH 1865 • Birchmore, Staffs - death?

George Charles Arthur Morgan - b. 23 OCTOBER 1867 • Polesworth, Staffordshire

d. 13 MAY 1898 • Tamworth, Staffordshire

David Morgan - b. 15 OCTOBER 1869 • Polesworth, Staffordshire

d. DEC 1942 • Don Valley Registration area, Yorkshire

William John Morgan - b. 30 JANUARY 1871 • Polesworth, Staffordshire

d. 1 DEC 1912 • Tamworth, Staffs

Elizabeth Morgan - b. 13 JULY 1872 • Polesworth, Staffordshire

d. 10 AUGUST 1937 • Tamworth, Staffordshire

Thomas Morgan  J.P. (My great grandfather)
b.21 JANUARY 1874 • Polesworth, Staffordshire

d. 16 FEBRUARY 1948 • Denaby Main, South Yorkshire
wife, Janet nee Paterson  b. 4 DEC 1880 • Cambuslang, Lanarkshire
d. JAN 1974 • Yorkshire 

David married Maggie Evans - b. 1870 c. Merthyr Tydfil, Wales
- d.1936 • Denaby Main, Doncaster, Yorkshire  

Any information would be appreciated, in particular, any on Maggie Evans or any of the above, especially those which are highlighted, (i.e, where David and Maggie met and were married, did they have children etc etc).  What happened to Samuel and Mary Ann?   Where did they end up?

I have learnt quite a lot already, through a 'new-found' relation of mine, Nita Pearson nee Morgan, who has researched our family's ancestry for over 15 years. She is very dedicated and has been a real font of knowledge.  In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she has already been in contact with you on this forum already, over the past 15 years.  She has discovered that David and Maggie seemed to travel quite a lot.  David had already travelled extensively before he met Maggie (I'm presuming he hadn't met her at that time!) and as a couple, they had lived in Cambuslang, Whitburn, West Lothian, Mexborough and Denaby Main, with my great grandparents, on and off, for many years.  They are both buried alongside my great grandparents, which makes me suspect that Maggie never did have any children of her own. ('Another' ungrounded presumption!)

Thanks anyway
Anji

[mikemerthyr]

Hello Anji There are two marriages of a DAVID MORGAN to a MARGARET EVANS recorded in MERTHYR TYDFIL in the year 1900 which it might be worth you looking into.
DAVID MORGAN MARGARET EVANS on 26 FEBUARY 1900 at CARMEL CONGREGATIONAL METHODIST CHURCH ABERDARE .

DAVID MORGAN MARGARET EVANS on 28 AUGUST 1900 at MERTHYR TYDFIL REGISTER OFFICE.
There is also only one marriage I could find recorded of a MAGGIE EVANS to DAVID MORGAN that was in SEPTEMBER QTR 1891 in ST PANCRAS LONDON. There are loads of others which might also be them all around the country especially if they moved about a lot but these three might cut it down a little.
GOOD LUCK
MIKE

[anjimorgan]

Hi Mike!

Sincere apologies as I didn't recieve any email'notification' that I had got a reply to my post.

Thanks for that anyway. It is very much appreciated.

They 'did' move around 'a lot' and we had assumed they were in Cambuslang, Scotland, around the time of their marriage, but it's quite feasible that they could have gone back to Maggie's home town to get married, around that time.

Well, there is only Mary Ann Morgan to find now! )

We recently found out that 'Samuel' (David's somewhat elusive brother) ended up emigrating to Pennsylvania and marrying a (divorcee) Hattie Morgan (totally unrelated, tho once referred to, in a Scranton's people history book, as 'Martha'!)

Samuel's son William Albert Morgan (and her two sons to a previous marriage - Harold Dilley Morgan and George Thomas Morgan owned a successful laundry business in Haddonfield, New Jersey, called 'Morgan's Laundry, Co'.

Samuel also had a daughter, called Martha married to a Charles Klein Gloman.

Hattie's mother Martha Posten (or Matilda/ Martha Jones) just also happened to be Welsh! )

There is some confusion on her name, as the afore-mentioned Scranton people's history book has also referred to Martha as Matilda Jones. Yet her death certificate clearly states 'Martha Posten'. And there is also the fact that we have a 'Robert Posten Morgan' later on down the line, that leads us to believe her name was actually Martha Posten. (Perhaps itnwas 'Martha Posten Jones or she had been previously married, but the book said 'Miss' Martha Jones' and mentioned her 3 children's names correctly).

That said, a couple of online books, 'The Mining Engineer' and 'The Black Diamond' both refer to George T Morgan's wife as 'Martha Jones' when writing about his retirement after 30 years of working for Susquehana Coal Co.

Apparently, it turns out that Matilda and Martha were often used interchangeably in those days and specific christian names like these were invariably passed down family generations (not with the intention of being used as 'first names' but merely to ensure that the 'family' name was carried on). Alas, she can only be found on a census once she and George T. Morgan were married!

I 'know' it's a big ask, considering the names 'Morgan' and 'Jones' are as prolific as 'Smiths' in England, but I don't suppose someone on here can find anything on a Martha Posten or Martha/Matilda Jones whose family hail from Cardiff (tailors by trade) who went to live in Scranton, Minersville?

William Jones, her father was in the Queens Guard took his family to Scranton, USA, where there was a large Welsh settlement . His sons, Edward Seymour Jones (became a proprieter of a pharmacy), Randolph Jones and daughter 'Martha/Matilda'Jones all lived in Scranton at some time.

It appears that Martha Jones/Martha P married George.T.Morgan (from Gloucester). He was a superintendent at Susquehana Coal Co. Nanticoke, Luzerne.Pennsylvania.

George and 'Martha/Matilda' lived in Skulykil Minersville, Nanticoke, Susquehana and Wilkes-Barre USA.

Martha Jones (Martha P), who we are assuming is one and the the same person, has 'Martha Posten' stated on her death cert. (No mention of 'Jones' whatsoever, as being her maiden name!)


There is a Robert Posten Morgan, later down the line, which kind of confirms that this was her actual name, at least, at some point in her life.

George and Martha had 3 children- Hattie, Jennie and Randolph, they all lived in Nanticoke, Wilkes Barre.

Apologies for all the AKAs in this post! They didn't make it easy for future generations, did they?!


Thanks again for going to the trouble of looking for David and Maggie, Mike.